P.S. I watched the video and I’m in awe. Your presentation and the care taken are a rarity, as was the seriousness with which you addressed audience comments and questions. Will be sharing. Also, I am just a little younger than you, but when I was growing up I recall people debating issues with civility, particularly philosophical debates, all the parameters you laid out in the beginning for those that either never have experienced meaningful and civil debate/disagreement or for all who have forgotten what it is like. Thank you for underscoring the importance of that as well.
Another brilliant piece which forces us to face hard truths. I’m still reeling from the story of the kid being used as bait and blown up. Your series on hirhome about Israeli leaders is must-read material, I have returned to it often and am looking forward to watching the video posted with this piece.
Thank you. Dear Francisco, with great hesitancy I tried twice to watch the video offered within this fine post "Israel Trip (Part 2). Identity, worldview...". The first attempt was to watch from beginning to/towards the end. I lasted through the introductory graphics of the three frames of discussion. My 2nd attempt was more thorough but I skipped some of the fuller explanations of each section until the end and all of the Q & A. I am now curious as to what your agenda and game plan is. Some of it is (appears to me) clear. Some of it is (appears to me) muddled. Some of it is (appears to me) suspicious. Some of it is (appears to me) altruistic. There is an overarching tendency to be sure to cover all the resistance. This is sometimes called "apologetics". It is as if you are trying to "cover all bases". Albeit extremely briefly considering that you have 20 years of research into this quagmire. You do admirably cover a lot of ground!!! However, I'm not convinced that the discussion model is ideal. It is idealistic. But it may not yet be a successful model. In other words I suspect that it is too altruistic. Not in its hopefulness, but in its practicality and real application on a general scale. Certainly I could as an individual go along with the game that you propose. But that would be simply to be polite, kind, generous, and altruistic. I think altruism is a default position of persons who lack the ability to work through the harder points - from any participant. It seemed to me that in the video you go in and out of several psychological positions. Understandably because you can not say what you really think. You have chosen to try to say a lot, and as said to cover a LOT of ground - in a short period. It seems to me that you go between a few polarities or a few poles. A) laying the messianic framework for a nice friendly cooperative discussion B) possible cognitive dissonance at least in moments C) you lay out some hard important recent (100 years) facts and factors C) you 'tell it like it is' in that a) the Israelis 'are responsible' for the Arab-Palestinians while b) the Israelis must proceed at the moment along the very lines/actions that they are taking in a very complex and measured way. I wonder as always since October 7, 2023 about what lessons 'we' must glean from the blessed people of the 22 or so communities in area known as The Envelope which was massacred along with the visitors to the area's Nova Festival. What can we glean from the processes of valid altruism leading up to October 7th? I would propose a greater inclusion of that ideology/ies and how you may actually be encouraging persons and groups of persons to repeat the very same altruistic approaches which in the end or interim we can see failed possibly in quite a few ways most of which I am just very generally labeling as "altruistic" or "altruism". Those are just some quick thoughts on first reflection. As always, deep sincere thanks for the work you are doing and your recent writings which ARE profoundly valuable to lead to possible solutions. Regards.
similarly, I didn't understand it. I think you explained well in the vids: when Jews are oppressed and killed, the people doing it are terrible to and terrible for non-Jews also, thus it's only logical to oppose their anti-Jew fascism. And you are correct--Israeli leaders are only bad to the degree they cave to fascism (acquiescing to the Oslo accords, upholding apartheid policy at the Temple Mount and caving to similar anti-Jew, anti-Christian policies).
Oh, I think Israeli leaders do much worse than "cave in". They have very actively and seriously undermined the security of the Israeli State and of Jews everywhere.
P.S. I watched the video and I’m in awe. Your presentation and the care taken are a rarity, as was the seriousness with which you addressed audience comments and questions. Will be sharing. Also, I am just a little younger than you, but when I was growing up I recall people debating issues with civility, particularly philosophical debates, all the parameters you laid out in the beginning for those that either never have experienced meaningful and civil debate/disagreement or for all who have forgotten what it is like. Thank you for underscoring the importance of that as well.
Many thanks for your comment and for your support!! Yes, please share the video.
Another brilliant piece which forces us to face hard truths. I’m still reeling from the story of the kid being used as bait and blown up. Your series on hirhome about Israeli leaders is must-read material, I have returned to it often and am looking forward to watching the video posted with this piece.
Thank you. Dear Francisco, with great hesitancy I tried twice to watch the video offered within this fine post "Israel Trip (Part 2). Identity, worldview...". The first attempt was to watch from beginning to/towards the end. I lasted through the introductory graphics of the three frames of discussion. My 2nd attempt was more thorough but I skipped some of the fuller explanations of each section until the end and all of the Q & A. I am now curious as to what your agenda and game plan is. Some of it is (appears to me) clear. Some of it is (appears to me) muddled. Some of it is (appears to me) suspicious. Some of it is (appears to me) altruistic. There is an overarching tendency to be sure to cover all the resistance. This is sometimes called "apologetics". It is as if you are trying to "cover all bases". Albeit extremely briefly considering that you have 20 years of research into this quagmire. You do admirably cover a lot of ground!!! However, I'm not convinced that the discussion model is ideal. It is idealistic. But it may not yet be a successful model. In other words I suspect that it is too altruistic. Not in its hopefulness, but in its practicality and real application on a general scale. Certainly I could as an individual go along with the game that you propose. But that would be simply to be polite, kind, generous, and altruistic. I think altruism is a default position of persons who lack the ability to work through the harder points - from any participant. It seemed to me that in the video you go in and out of several psychological positions. Understandably because you can not say what you really think. You have chosen to try to say a lot, and as said to cover a LOT of ground - in a short period. It seems to me that you go between a few polarities or a few poles. A) laying the messianic framework for a nice friendly cooperative discussion B) possible cognitive dissonance at least in moments C) you lay out some hard important recent (100 years) facts and factors C) you 'tell it like it is' in that a) the Israelis 'are responsible' for the Arab-Palestinians while b) the Israelis must proceed at the moment along the very lines/actions that they are taking in a very complex and measured way. I wonder as always since October 7, 2023 about what lessons 'we' must glean from the blessed people of the 22 or so communities in area known as The Envelope which was massacred along with the visitors to the area's Nova Festival. What can we glean from the processes of valid altruism leading up to October 7th? I would propose a greater inclusion of that ideology/ies and how you may actually be encouraging persons and groups of persons to repeat the very same altruistic approaches which in the end or interim we can see failed possibly in quite a few ways most of which I am just very generally labeling as "altruistic" or "altruism". Those are just some quick thoughts on first reflection. As always, deep sincere thanks for the work you are doing and your recent writings which ARE profoundly valuable to lead to possible solutions. Regards.
Sorry. I couldn't understand any of this.
Please watch the whole video from beginning to end. Then perhaps we can have an exchange. Thank your for your comment.
similarly, I didn't understand it. I think you explained well in the vids: when Jews are oppressed and killed, the people doing it are terrible to and terrible for non-Jews also, thus it's only logical to oppose their anti-Jew fascism. And you are correct--Israeli leaders are only bad to the degree they cave to fascism (acquiescing to the Oslo accords, upholding apartheid policy at the Temple Mount and caving to similar anti-Jew, anti-Christian policies).
Oh, I think Israeli leaders do much worse than "cave in". They have very actively and seriously undermined the security of the Israeli State and of Jews everywhere.
https://youtu.be/CJvKNWGsd7A?si=DiL23GtSy_xyWc4l
Thus, I'm a Kahane fan. But the world, particularly the Pentagon, will not tolerate uppity Jews.
They will not. But truly uppity Jews will not care.