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nevil cohen's avatar

Please clarify something for me. You say that 64 million or so non Jews were also killed during WWII. Is that civilians or including soldiers? You then say millions more were enslaved. Please explain that. In what manner were they enslaved, and how did that end?

Francisco Gil-White's avatar

The current estimate is that about 70 million people lost their lives in World War II. Between 5 and 6 million of those were Jews. Let's say six million. That leaves 64 million non-Jews.

That includes everybody. Civilians and soldiers.

In addition, hundreds of millions of Europeans, in the area controlled by the Nazis, were enslaved. How were they enslaved? Well, they lost their rights. They could be arrested for any reason, without due process, by the Nazis. That's a a slave. And some of them--many of them--were even made to do forced labor. But even those who were not doing forced labor were still forced, coerced. Everybody had to obey.

This slavery began in Germany. The Germans were the first to be enslaved. Of course, Nazi Party members were slaves too. Everybody was always worried that someone else might make the accusation that you were a Jew, or had a Jewish relative, or had Jewish sympathies, or something. Because the only way to be relatively safe was to out-Nazi everybody else, and one sure way to do that was to go Gestapo on everybody around you.

It's the same dynamic that you see in the woke movement, where you are always worried that someone is going to out-woke you and denounce your for something.

nevil cohen's avatar

So by definition, then anyone living in an autocratic state is a slave. Anyone living without the protection of free speech is a slave. Given that the media manages the reality world wide, we are then all slaves. The only question is to what degree. If so, then distinction needs to be made for various classes of slavery. The Inuit have multple words to describe different snow/ice conditions, far in excess of the English language. To accept this requires something similar, as a slave to minding one's words in public can hardly be compared to a forced labourer. Brainwashing is slavery, be it through education or media control. I'm not sure that society conceives of that as slavery, although the hypothesis sounds correct.

Francisco Gil-White's avatar

No, anyone living in a TOTALITARIAN State is a slave. There are many examples of autocratic States where basic rights are more or less well respected. But in a totalitarian State you have zero rights. When you have zero rights, what you are is a slave.

PN Schwartz's avatar

Jews were enslaved in various nazi work camps, forced to make bullets, weapons, do a variety of tedious work, worked to death. You seldom see it described this way b/c Western media does not want people to notice that Jews were enslaved less than 100 years ago.

Eve Bieber's avatar

Give the wicked credit for knowing what their priorities are and being focused on them. Even when, time and again, this particular obsession leads to their downfall, they never give up trying.

Some will ascribe it to the insanity of trying the same thing over and over again.... And there's no denying the complete lack of sense in what the bosses are doing, for they are not ignorant, they know the Bible and they know that the Prophets foretold that they will be driven to their own self destruction by virtual hooks that G-d will implant in their cheeks.

Yet again we now see that them whom G-d wishes to destroy, He afflicts with obsessive compulsions. Hopefully this will be the last time ever that decent humans will have to put up with them and their cohorts.

Francisco Gil-White's avatar

The reason it keeps happening is precisely this: people keep hoping it is the last time.

There is no last time.

We must be prepared for an eternal struggle. Only then can we win.

It has been going on for 4,300 years.

Please never speak the words "this is the last time." That's how they kill and enslave us.

https://franciscogilwhite.substack.com/p/semitism-vs-antisemitism-structure-of-history

nevil cohen's avatar

One can't but draw the parallel with Nazi Germany's behaviour as they faced imminent defeat to Russia. As you have often highlighted, rather than do their best to fortify their defences on the Eastern Front, they instead pulled back some of these troops to speed up the killing of as many Jews as possible. Ditto Starmer and Macron. Given the urgency of their actions, do they then think they can get this done before the next elections?

Francisco Gil-White's avatar

Interesting parallel. Love it.

sean anderson's avatar

I was living in Iran when Mitterrand was first elected President of France. As I lived in Shemiran where most of the French educated secular Iranians were pro-Socialist they were chattering excitedly about a supposed prophecy in Nostradamus about the “ ascent of the roses” (red roses were a symbol of the far left in France.) i thought it so strange that supposed “scientific materialists” in Islamic Iran were putting credence into the “prophecies” of a 16th century French Catholic mystic! Certainly not any stranger and though far less invidious than the Western Left’s current obsession with the deadly mysticism of today’s Palestinian movement.