Much as it pains me to even think this, would it be consistent with your model to posit that the Western Bosses allowed the State of Israel to come into existence as a "milk and honey trap" to lure as many Jews as possible, from as many countries as possible, into one small place and then...?
This is an important point, and actually in that context I suggest that the MOR model (as reliable as it is proving to be) is like Newtonian physics... missing some information.
Namely that the US bosses are not all-powerful and cannot control everything - especially when it comes to the existence of Israel.
Dramatic Fact: 78 years of failing to produce the jihadi genocide they want.
Super Dramatic Fact: the seven-front attack planned in Oct. 2023 which had no geopolitical reason to fail, and even (speculatively speaking) had help to succeed from a fifth column inside Israel.
The equivalent of Einsteinian physics explaining Mercury's behavior is Bible prophecy explaining Israel's survival.
Predating the Western powers by thousands of years, the Jewish prophets predicted:
(a) a resurrected Jewish state with Jews returning to it from all over the world, not as a trap but as a fulfilled promise to repossess a lost inheritance.
(b) the phenomenon of some Jews returning willingly, with others being forced to come.
(c) the rise of powerful forces uniting to destroy the renewed Israel, and the Jewish people with it.
(d) all such attempts failing, and in fact backfiring on the nations that would try it.
If the Bible model is correct, the Jew-hating bosses will at some point experience a fatal blowback that they don't expect and will not be able to stop.
This blowback may already be in motion in North America, Britain and western Europe... which happen to be the nations most deeply involved the latest betrayal of the Jews by pretending to be Israel's 'friends'.
imo, the Western bosses were not all that organized in 1948, they were still building their nazi-intelligence machine, they had not commandeered the level of control that they would gain over the next 10-15 years. Eg. in 1948, progressive US media supported Israel. They had not yet implemented the strategy and propaganda skills of putting their own lackies into all positions of influence. So Freda Kirchwey could get the truth out before she was replaced with CIA-aligned Arabists. But this pattern was everywhere. Francisco was ousted from US academia, where all are CIA-aligned Arabists (or at best they are neutered/silenced).
But I wonder if Israel, as the global Jew, is something that they need to exist (for their scapegoating), yet they want to be beaten down and as weak as possible? So it's a conundrum: do they want to beat Israel down as much as possible, yet maintain Israel's existence? Where would all their scapegoating and mass-media big-lie policy be directed if Israel was obliterated?? Just some food for thought.
Interesting. I've been saying that this whole Alliyah drive is a plan to get the Jews to Israel. It will be like sitting in a microwave waiting for the nukes to explode. That, in my opinion, is simply a matter of time.
You are really getting it now. This is the kind of hypothesis that proper use of the MOR model SHOULD motivate. Congratulations.
As to your question, I think the Western bosses certainly learned to see Israel in this manner, and adapted accordingly. But the Western bosses certainly didn't "allow the State of Israel to come into existence." To the contrary, they worked hard to impede the birth of Israel. There is a big misconception about this, and I will soon cover this topic in more detail in an upcoming book. But for the time being you may read about this, and examine the documentation, here:
While I agree that there is abundant evidence that the US elites did not want Israel to be created as a Jewish state and that they have prevented Israel from defeating its enemies while increasing the power of these enemies, I am inclined to think Trump is in fact different, or would like to be.
Bear in mind that NO-ONE is hated more by the US ruling elites than Trump. They hate him so much they have undermined prized US institutions to keep him from power and/or remove him from power. The feeling is clearly mutual, making Trump instinctively challenge almost every policy the US elites support.
This fact should make you question whether Trump is likely to willingly adopt the same policy as these elites, that of destroying Israel as a Jewish state.
Many think done by Trump have strengthened Israel. By far the most important was him abandoning the Iran nuclear deal, imposing severe sanctions on Iran, and pushing through the Abraham accords. He has also supported Israels current war and efforts to defeat Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran.
It is quite possible that these efforts will fail, partly because the opposition of the US elites forces him to back down.
However it seems to me a weakened Iranian regime will strenghthen the Abraham Accords, which will benefit Israel's security.
Trump would be dead if they hated him. Or they would have elevated the infinitely superior Ron DeSantis over Trump. Trump is a professional wrestling performer who is just 'jobbing', doing his job. He is given full respect by the elite class, he is recognized as US leader, he has full access to Air Force 1 (and all the staffing that entails). Try not to mistake the theatrical show that he is 'hated' with the reality--he is a fully accepted and installed actor in the show.
You lost the argument when you said, "They hate him so much they have undermined prized US institutions to keep him from power and/or remove him from power."
Where has Trump been removed from power? He is a fully respected, fully empowered POTUS. Both the democrat and republican establishments wanted him back in office over DeSantis--even though DeSantis was very obviously a vastly superior choice. Trump isn't even a politician, he's a reality tv show star.
The FBI was weaponised by Obama to manufacture a Russian conspiracy theory during the 2016 election campaign. He won the election. The FBI worked with Congress to push the Russia hoax in an attempt to impeach him.
In 2020 the FBI conspired with the press to suppress the Biden laptop story just before the election. Biden wine that election partly thanks to this illegal interference by the FBI.
After Biden was elected his Justice Department mounted or supported multiple prosecution of Trump in an effort to prevent him running again. The Administration and the press conspired to hide Biden’s obvious incapacity. All this is Banana republic stuff.
Much as it pains me to even think this, would it be consistent with your model to posit that the Western Bosses allowed the State of Israel to come into existence as a "milk and honey trap" to lure as many Jews as possible, from as many countries as possible, into one small place and then...?
This is an important point, and actually in that context I suggest that the MOR model (as reliable as it is proving to be) is like Newtonian physics... missing some information.
Namely that the US bosses are not all-powerful and cannot control everything - especially when it comes to the existence of Israel.
Dramatic Fact: 78 years of failing to produce the jihadi genocide they want.
Super Dramatic Fact: the seven-front attack planned in Oct. 2023 which had no geopolitical reason to fail, and even (speculatively speaking) had help to succeed from a fifth column inside Israel.
The equivalent of Einsteinian physics explaining Mercury's behavior is Bible prophecy explaining Israel's survival.
Predating the Western powers by thousands of years, the Jewish prophets predicted:
(a) a resurrected Jewish state with Jews returning to it from all over the world, not as a trap but as a fulfilled promise to repossess a lost inheritance.
(b) the phenomenon of some Jews returning willingly, with others being forced to come.
(c) the rise of powerful forces uniting to destroy the renewed Israel, and the Jewish people with it.
(d) all such attempts failing, and in fact backfiring on the nations that would try it.
If the Bible model is correct, the Jew-hating bosses will at some point experience a fatal blowback that they don't expect and will not be able to stop.
This blowback may already be in motion in North America, Britain and western Europe... which happen to be the nations most deeply involved the latest betrayal of the Jews by pretending to be Israel's 'friends'.
QED
Ok but don't wait for Hashem to make it happen. Let's make it happen. He'll give us a little push. But we have to fight.
imo, the Western bosses were not all that organized in 1948, they were still building their nazi-intelligence machine, they had not commandeered the level of control that they would gain over the next 10-15 years. Eg. in 1948, progressive US media supported Israel. They had not yet implemented the strategy and propaganda skills of putting their own lackies into all positions of influence. So Freda Kirchwey could get the truth out before she was replaced with CIA-aligned Arabists. But this pattern was everywhere. Francisco was ousted from US academia, where all are CIA-aligned Arabists (or at best they are neutered/silenced).
But I wonder if Israel, as the global Jew, is something that they need to exist (for their scapegoating), yet they want to be beaten down and as weak as possible? So it's a conundrum: do they want to beat Israel down as much as possible, yet maintain Israel's existence? Where would all their scapegoating and mass-media big-lie policy be directed if Israel was obliterated?? Just some food for thought.
Interesting. I've been saying that this whole Alliyah drive is a plan to get the Jews to Israel. It will be like sitting in a microwave waiting for the nukes to explode. That, in my opinion, is simply a matter of time.
You are really getting it now. This is the kind of hypothesis that proper use of the MOR model SHOULD motivate. Congratulations.
As to your question, I think the Western bosses certainly learned to see Israel in this manner, and adapted accordingly. But the Western bosses certainly didn't "allow the State of Israel to come into existence." To the contrary, they worked hard to impede the birth of Israel. There is a big misconception about this, and I will soon cover this topic in more detail in an upcoming book. But for the time being you may read about this, and examine the documentation, here:
https://www.hirhome.com/israel/hirally.htm#1947
While I agree that there is abundant evidence that the US elites did not want Israel to be created as a Jewish state and that they have prevented Israel from defeating its enemies while increasing the power of these enemies, I am inclined to think Trump is in fact different, or would like to be.
Bear in mind that NO-ONE is hated more by the US ruling elites than Trump. They hate him so much they have undermined prized US institutions to keep him from power and/or remove him from power. The feeling is clearly mutual, making Trump instinctively challenge almost every policy the US elites support.
This fact should make you question whether Trump is likely to willingly adopt the same policy as these elites, that of destroying Israel as a Jewish state.
Many think done by Trump have strengthened Israel. By far the most important was him abandoning the Iran nuclear deal, imposing severe sanctions on Iran, and pushing through the Abraham accords. He has also supported Israels current war and efforts to defeat Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran.
It is quite possible that these efforts will fail, partly because the opposition of the US elites forces him to back down.
However it seems to me a weakened Iranian regime will strenghthen the Abraham Accords, which will benefit Israel's security.
Trump would be dead if they hated him. Or they would have elevated the infinitely superior Ron DeSantis over Trump. Trump is a professional wrestling performer who is just 'jobbing', doing his job. He is given full respect by the elite class, he is recognized as US leader, he has full access to Air Force 1 (and all the staffing that entails). Try not to mistake the theatrical show that he is 'hated' with the reality--he is a fully accepted and installed actor in the show.
That is absurd ad hoc reasoning. Proof that you have lost the argument.
You lost the argument when you said, "They hate him so much they have undermined prized US institutions to keep him from power and/or remove him from power."
Where has Trump been removed from power? He is a fully respected, fully empowered POTUS. Both the democrat and republican establishments wanted him back in office over DeSantis--even though DeSantis was very obviously a vastly superior choice. Trump isn't even a politician, he's a reality tv show star.
The FBI was weaponised by Obama to manufacture a Russian conspiracy theory during the 2016 election campaign. He won the election. The FBI worked with Congress to push the Russia hoax in an attempt to impeach him.
In 2020 the FBI conspired with the press to suppress the Biden laptop story just before the election. Biden wine that election partly thanks to this illegal interference by the FBI.
After Biden was elected his Justice Department mounted or supported multiple prosecution of Trump in an effort to prevent him running again. The Administration and the press conspired to hide Biden’s obvious incapacity. All this is Banana republic stuff.
Indeed. He is a reality-TV actor. Nothing more.
But also nothing less!
Trump is an ACCOMPLISHED actor. Quite convincing.
We have analyzed that here:
https://franciscogilwhite.substack.com/p/part-1-is-trump-for-real-or-is-this-kayfabe-management-of-reality